Problemy z nowymi Dynafitami (Radical) i nie tylko

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Dear Dynafit Community,

We are writing to inform you about an issue related to our new Radical bindings. We have discovered a quite specific and unlikely circumstance that can lead to the heel unit being damaged. Since identifying this issue, our international team has been working hard on understanding the issue and finding a solution.

After intensive testing, we are confident this identified damage DOES NOT present a safety risk. But at the same time, we aim to take a proactive leadership approach and as a result are communicating a “required technical upgrade of the Radical series”. This includes all bindings in the RADICAL series, including RADICAL ST, RADICAL FT, and SPEED RADICAL.

Details on the issue and the solution:

1. Issue: The damage can happen when the heel unit is subjected to forces in a particular way. This particular arrangement of forces is pretty rare. In the ascent mode (when the heel unit is in “lock” or “tour” position) the housing may be damaged if the unit is strongly impacted in a counter-clockwise direction (back towards “ski mode”) causing the internal PIN to strongly impact against the internal housing wall. Damage can only occur in ascent mode, not in the descent (or “ski” mode).

Even if the housing is damaged, the binding should still release perfectly in any mode, and there is little danger of the heel unit detaching. Therefore this does not constitute an acute danger or risk for the skier. Essentially after the damage, the binding functions similar to a TLT Vertical binding which doesn’t have a PIN in the back unit (this “lock position” was introduced to prevent the inconvenient – and fairly rare – rotation of the heel unit back into ski mode, while touring).

2. Solution: The good news is we can eliminate the risk of damage. This is achieved by a quick and easy exchange of the small PIN which is within the heel housing. For bindings in the market, this exchange can be completed without having to return the bindings. Please see the attached visual and written description of the solution.

Details on next steps:

1. Dynafit inventory – We will hold additional sales of Radical bindings until our existing inventory has received this technical upgrade. We expect this will be complete by the second week of January (week of January 9). In the meantime, we have availability in Vertical ST and Vertical FT bindings.

2. Dealer inventory – We are requesting dealers also hold sales of current Radical bindings until they have completed the required technical upgrade. This upgrade
can be completed after we ship the replacement PINS to dealers, with a target ship date of the second week of January (week of January 9).
In the meantime, dealers have the ability to sell the Vertical series of bindings. In addition to any dealer inventory, we have Vertical FT’s and ST’s in stock, as well as Speed Superlights.

3. Consumers – We are also requesting consumers with Radical bindings to undertake the required technical upgrade. This can happen in one of three ways:
a. We can send PINS to the consumer to replace themselves.
b. The consumer can bring the bindings to a retailer for the upgrade.
c. The consumer can call us for a return authorization, and then return the binding directly to Dynafit in Boulder, Colorado for the upgrade.
4. In the meantime and into the future of course, we will continue to honor any valid warranty claims for bindings that incur damage to the heel unit.

THANK YOU for your understanding and your partnership in working through this matter together. We appreciate your support, and we are at your service.

– Your team at Dynafit North America

[quote="Rostwor"]W�a�nie przeczytane: http://www.tetonat.com/2011/12/21/plum-guide-and-dynafit-radical-tech-binding-woes/#more-24011

Nie wiem tylko, czy dotyczy to tylko USA, czy wi�zania rozprowadzane w Europie maj� ten sam feler.

O�wiadczenie Dynafita:
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jednak?!?!?!?..... nowo�ci nowo�ciami, ale co sprawdzona konstrukcja, to sprawdzona

mrr

W�a�nie przeczytane: http://www.tetonat.com/2011/12/21/plum-guide-and-dynafit-radical-tech-binding-woes/#more-24011

Nie wiem tylko, czy dotyczy to tylko USA, czy wi�zania rozprowadzane w Europie maj� ten sam feler.

O�wiadczenie Dynafita:
Dear Dynafit Community,

We are writing to inform you about an issue related to our new Radical bindings. We have discovered a quite specific and unlikely circumstance that can lead to the heel unit being damaged. Since identifying this issue, our international team has been working hard on understanding the issue and finding a solution.

After intensive testing, we are confident this identified damage DOES NOT present a safety risk. But at the same time, we aim to take a proactive leadership approach and as a result are communicating a “required technical upgrade of the Radical series”. This includes all bindings in the RADICAL series, including RADICAL ST, RADICAL FT, and SPEED RADICAL.

Details on the issue and the solution:

1. Issue: The damage can happen when the heel unit is subjected to forces in a particular way. This particular arrangement of forces is pretty rare. In the ascent mode (when the heel unit is in “lock” or “tour” position) the housing may be damaged if the unit is strongly impacted in a counter-clockwise direction (back towards “ski mode”) causing the internal PIN to strongly impact against the internal housing wall. Damage can only occur in ascent mode, not in the descent (or “ski” mode).

Even if the housing is damaged, the binding should still release perfectly in any mode, and there is little danger of the heel unit detaching. Therefore this does not constitute an acute danger or risk for the skier. Essentially after the damage, the binding functions similar to a TLT Vertical binding which doesn’t have a PIN in the back unit (this “lock position” was introduced to prevent the inconvenient – and fairly rare – rotation of the heel unit back into ski mode, while touring).

2. Solution: The good news is we can eliminate the risk of damage. This is achieved by a quick and easy exchange of the small PIN which is within the heel housing. For bindings in the market, this exchange can be completed without having to return the bindings. Please see the attached visual and written description of the solution.

Details on next steps:

1. Dynafit inventory – We will hold additional sales of Radical bindings until our existing inventory has received this technical upgrade. We expect this will be complete by the second week of January (week of January 9). In the meantime, we have availability in Vertical ST and Vertical FT bindings.

2. Dealer inventory – We are requesting dealers also hold sales of current Radical bindings until they have completed the required technical upgrade. This upgrade
can be completed after we ship the replacement PINS to dealers, with a target ship date of the second week of January (week of January 9).
In the meantime, dealers have the ability to sell the Vertical series of bindings. In addition to any dealer inventory, we have Vertical FT’s and ST’s in stock, as well as Speed Superlights.

3. Consumers – We are also requesting consumers with Radical bindings to undertake the required technical upgrade. This can happen in one of three ways:
a. We can send PINS to the consumer to replace themselves.
b. The consumer can bring the bindings to a retailer for the upgrade.
c. The consumer can call us for a return authorization, and then return the binding directly to Dynafit in Boulder, Colorado for the upgrade.
4. In the meantime and into the future of course, we will continue to honor any valid warranty claims for bindings that incur damage to the heel unit.

THANK YOU for your understanding and your partnership in working through this matter together. We appreciate your support, and we are at your service.

– Your team at Dynafit North America

W dyskusji o p�kaj�cych bolcach w Onyx'ach z pierwszej serii pad�o, �e problem w Radicalach wyp�yn�� w Hiszpanii.

w Austrii tez zostala wstrzymana sprzedaz

A ju� mia�em kupowa�, ale si� wstrzyma�em .....

A ju� mia�em kupowa�, ale si� wstrzyma�em .....

Nie wiem, co ludzi pcha do kupowania nowych, nie sprawdzonych jeszcze rozwi�za�...

Nie wiem, co ludzi pcha do kupowania nowych, nie sprawdzonych jeszcze rozwi�za�...

Mnie np. ciekawo�� i "dusza eksperymentatora". A poza tym sk�d wiesz czy jest sprawdzone czy nie jak sam nie pomacasz?

Kuba

A czy mo�na poprosi� o skr�t chocia�by po polsku? Wszak to forum polskoj�zyczne, a znajomo�� j. angielskiego jakkolwiek bardzo przydatna to jednak - p�ki co - nie jest chyba obowi�zkowa...

Nie wiem, co ludzi pcha do kupowania nowych, nie sprawdzonych jeszcze rozwi�za�...

Przeciez ktos to musi sprawdzic zeby ktos mogl kupowac sprawdzone : ))

Pozdrawiam

Nie dramatyzujmy, wi�zania s� naprawd� fajne, my�l�, �e patent si� przyjmie. W g�owicy trzeba wymieni� ma�y element odpowiadaj�cy za blokowanie ruchu wi�zania. Wymiana wydaje si� by� bardzo prosta i mo�na to zrobi� maj�c 10min czasu, �rubokr�t i kombinerki
To dotyczy wszystkich Radicali tak�e kupionych w Polsce. My czekamy na czesci zamienne (ten trzpie� co trzeba wymieni�) Jak dostaniemy to damy zna� . Zakladamy �e dostaniemy wiecej czesci i bedzie mozna u nas odebrac nawet jak ktos kupil np za granic� Dynafita...

Jak tylko odkopie sie po urlopie wrzuce do 2 dni info ze zdjeciami na czym polega ta wymiana...
A ja mam chwil� czasu i zdj�cia pod r�k� wi�c wrzucam od razu

prosz�

prawda �e proste ?

mi�ego d�ubania

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prawda �e proste ?

Niby proste. Tylko trzeba pami�ta�, �e wkr�caj�c �rub� trzymaj�c� spr�yn� i robi�c� jednocze�nie za regulacj� si�y wypi�cia w poziomie trzeba bardzo uwa�a�. Ona jest do�� du�� i �atwo "skie�za" - w ten spos�b bardzo �atwo mo�na krzywo wkr�ci� i gwint zepsu�. Z jednym egzmeplarzem swoich wi�za� mia�em w jednym wi�zaniu zawsze problemy.

Kuba

prawda �e proste ?

Niby proste. Tylko trzeba pami�ta�, �e wkr�caj�c �rub� trzymaj�c� spr�yn� i robi�c� jednocze�nie za regulacj� si�y wypi�cia w poziomie trzeba bardzo uwa�a�. Ona jest do�� du�� i �atwo "skie�za" - w ten spos�b bardzo �atwo mo�na krzywo wkr�ci� i gwint zepsu�. Kuba

U nas na stronie zdjecia + dodatkowo instrukcja po angielsku i niemiecku kt�ra mam nadzieje zapobiegnie niew�asciwej wymianie itd.

http://www.tuttu.pl/dynafit-wiazania-radical-wazny-komunikat-90-n

Tym klientom co kupili u nas wymieniamy bezplatnie w Katowicach. Ale caly czas czekamy jeszcze na bolce.

Niestety w Radical-ach wyszedl nowy problem:
http://www.wildsnow.com/6912/radical-heel-lift-break/
Mowiac w skrocie - w zwiazku z wadami materialowymi wyrywa sie podporka piety uszkadzajac gorna plytke tylu wiazania.
O ile dobrze zrozumialem po przyjrzeniu sie wiazaniom, to chodzi prawdopodobnie o uszkadzanie sie (odrywanie? pekanie?) metalowych "uszek", w ktorych mocowany jest trzpien bedacy osia obrotu podporek.
Skala zjawiska nie jest wielka (jak na razie 0.17% sprzedanych wiazan). Dynafit oczywiscie wymienia na swoj koszt wadliwe elementy.
A tak cos czulem, ze ten nowy "climbing aid" moze byc w Radicalach najbardziej problematyczna nowoscia...
Witam(;
Od wczoraj jestem w Waszym gronie, Czesc wszystkim!
Na turach chodze sobie od 2009 , przed tym czasem narty nosilem na plecaku.
W 2012 w styczniu kupilem radicale i niestety na plaskim terenie w puchu jedna z nart zaczela wolniej toczyc sie po sniegu.Okazalo sie ze sie ze ski stopery o�y�y i pytanie dlaczego ?
Okazalo sie ze pekla obudowa tylnego wiazania.Z reklamacja nie bylo problemu , po 2 tygodniach byly nowe i sprawuja sie doslonale.
Nied�ugo i jak b�d� (zwyci�y�a ciekawo�� nad pragmatyzmem) testowa� owe wynalazki po�yjemy zobaczymy

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